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touchstone s11

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Hello Everyone,

I want to save my s-parameter measurement date in touchstone s2p file format from s-parameter network analyzer and use the files in ADS to generate spice model.

Can anyone tell me how to do it?

I followed the instructions on the VNA manual and I generated files with extension .s1 and .s2 but ADS is not recognizig them.


Thanks


sure you using data in ASCII-format ?

older hp8753 have differ format compare to 'standard' S-parameters and needs rearranger order and possible recalculate value (for example from retangular to polar) to make wanted reading order in simulate programs

display small part begining of .s1 width headers and few lines of values so I can se if 'old' type or not - and is always full readable in ASCII-format.




I not possible make complete spice-model from S-parameters ie. S-parameters is linear model for one specific DC-BIAS-feeding and used signal stength in measure.

however- you can try using optimize on guessed network compare to S-parameter block in bridge (to near full cancelering) for make linear ekv. of measured S-parameter block. Calculate you need spend lot of time to build 'simple' spice-models and is only valid linear model of VNA measure situation of DUT. different signal level and/or different BIAS-network make different measure and different model.

Is not easy to make complete spice model...

Thanks for your reply.

Here are first few line from .s1 file.

First column is frequency and the other are S11,S12,S21 and S22

ADS has some options to generate spice model. There are some topology choices like Lumped PI-network model, loss-less transmission, N-section ladder etc. The only problem is it accepts only .snp or dataset files.

Added after 3 minutes:

Is it possible to make .s2p file from S-parameter data using Matlab RF toolbox?

Thanks

First column is frequency and the other are S11,S12,S21 and S22

seems ok format and your (and many other) programs should be imported without problem.

check cr,lf-problem or other stupid 'white space' format problems..- importing demo S-parameters from examples directory and try if you can see difference format between your S-parameters file and examples S-parameters file in good text editors.

ADS has some options to generate spice model. There are some topology choices like Lumped PI-network model, loss-less transmission, N-section ladder etc. The only problem is it accepts only .snp or dataset files.

Added after 3 minutes:

Is it possible to make .s2p file from S-parameter data using Matlab RF toolbox?

Thanks
Yes, is possiible make approx ekvivalent linear network to fit S-parameters, but S-parameters have never information of DC-working points, unliniarity, compressions point etc. and model from S-parameters is not usable for example measure IP3-parameters. - but still, S-parameters is very importent model and tools in development process.


I have not know about matlab possebly...

As your .s1 file seems to be like a normal *.s2p file, perhaps try to just rename *.s1 to *.s2p, and after that clear everything at the end of the file.
It probably will work.

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