线路中串联电容的作用求教
电容串在中间,信号还能很好的传递吗?怎么理解,请高手指教!
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耦合电容嘛,电容是隔直通交的作用。
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串联了电容,请 LZ 好好看看这些信号线在PCB中的走线是否都比较长?这些电容是否放置在芯片附近?
应该是抗干扰的,通过和芯片引脚的输入阻抗形成 RC电路,滤除噪声,具体滤除的频率可以计算一下
一般走线比较长的时候因为容易耦合噪声,因此需要这种电容串联的做法
应该是偶合的吧,在TMDS信号中有时也会安装0.1uf电容,有时又是直接连接的.希望高手能赐教一下,为什么要加这些电容,电容值又是怎么选择的?多谢了
电容是用来隔直流通交流的,SATA只需要交流部分,考虑到SATA可能参考不同的直流电压,可能5V,可能3V,然后叠加上交流信号,而SATA只需要交流,所以就需要把那个参考的直流电压滤除掉了,然后得到的就是只有交流信号。
是耦合电容,起隔直通交的作用,因为差分线上很多时候需要加一个直流电压的,比如交换机上就要加1.8V,他们是通过隔离变压器隔离的,但芯片对芯片的话就直接加电容进行隔离的!
因为在SATA信号传输的过程中会有衰减,传的距离越长衰减会越厉害,所以会给他一个载波(也就是直流分量),在进入IC或都SATAdevice後再用串電容的方法把直流分量濾掉,這樣做會有比較好的信號質量
顶,说得不对
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就是为了滤掉信号线上的直流电压成分
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我知道是隔直通交的,都是值应该怎么选呢?都是用104?
一般在 电容的一边会有偏置电压 不至于 交流电压 出现负值
不错,其实抗干扰的可能性比较大!
没人考滤阻抗匹配嘛
好像是这个样子
1、去耦合
2、储能
顶一下,学习了!
隔直作用
是耦合电容,有隔直通交的作用,如上面wy98461 所说的,可能是通讯两边的直流电位不一样,所以需要电容来把两端的直流电位通过电容隔开,同时电容容量选择的重点是要看通讯或者说是传输的数据的频率如何,要根据数据的频率来选择电容值,确保加上去的电容不会影响到数据的传输,同时要注意电容的耐压值选择要根据两端的直流电位差来选择!
AC耦合,有时候前后级IO电压不一致,所以采用AC耦合的方式比较简单方便
Analog Product Guide:
Optimize Performance at the Lowest Power
隔直
选频
隔直耦合作用。具体原理可以参考多级放大器的级连方式。 利用耦合方式能够很好解决前级和后级放大器静态工作点不一致的问题。(即耦合电容前后的直流电平不一致)。
不容耦合,直连的话,对外围电路的设计要求比较严格。受干扰等原因个体性能偏差就较大。
顶一下!
大家可以参考INTEL SPEC
AC Coupling Capacitors :
The PCI Express specification requires that each lane of a PCI Express link be AC
coupled between the driver and receiver. The specification allows for the actual AC
coupling capacitors to be located either on or off the die. However, it is anticipated that
in most cases the AC coupling will be separate from the die and in the form of discrete
capacitors on the motherboard itself. Use the following guidelines for AC coupling
capacitors:
• The Intel 82801GBM PCI Express expansion interface requires external AC coupling
capacitors.
• The AC capacitors may be placed anywhere on the line between the Intel
82801GBM and the PCI Express device/connector.
• Locate capacitors at the same linear location along the signals of a given
differential pair.
— No more than a 5-mil (0.127 mm) delta should exist between the differential
signals on the trace segments on either side of the AC coupling capacitor.
— There is no requirement to length match the routing from the ICH to the AC
coupling capacitors between the differential pairs.
• Place the capacitors as close to each other as possible per DFM rules for each
differential pair.
• While the 0603 size capacitors are acceptable, size 0402 capacitors are strongly
encouraged.
— The smaller package size reduces the series inductance.
— The smaller package size reduces the overall board area needed to place the
capacitors.
• Pad sizes for each of the capacitors should be the minimum allowed per DFM to
minimize parasitics.
• The same capacitor package size should be used for each signal in a differential
pair.
• C-packs are not recommended for PCI Express AC coupling capacitor purposes.
VNA measurements have shown that the loss across the channel due to crosstalk is
great and causes a severe decrease in margin. Also, layout studies show only a
small decrease in board area is needed to place the 0504, x2, C-packs compared
with 0402 discrete capacitors (less than 10%).
• The spec requires that a value anywhere between a minimum of 75 nF and a
maximum of 200 nF be used for each of the capacitors.
— 0.1 uF capacitors are a good choice because they are a common value and
generally present in a typical bill of materials.
— Tolerance values of the capacitors are irrelevant as long as the overall range of
tolerances falls within the spec minimum/maximum values of 75nF – 200nF.
• The “breakout” into and out of the capacitors should be symmetrical for both signal
lines in a differential pair. Minimize this trace route in order to maximize the
amount of coupling between the signals within the pair.
• Routing studies have shown that the AC coupling capacitors can be place in less
than 0.3 square inches (194 square).
这样的接法,应该就是隔直通交的作用了。
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切记,电容串联在电路中的,几乎都是起到隔直通交的。
交流耦合
其实电容在这里主要是EMC方面的作用!其实就是为了减小差模电流,来减小RE指标。但用电容是为了省钱,最佳的选择应是BEAD,但是这个比较的贵。
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还没有说明要怎样选取电容,根据什么原理!
耦合电容嘛,电容是隔直通交的作用
SATA gen2 基频约1.5GHz,这样高频率的信号在PCB上传输,那传输线的什么特性最需要考虑呢?----我觉得阻抗匹配比较合适.
所以大家还是从这方面考虑吧.隔直通交太简单了...
在TX和RX信号里应该起滤波作用吧
高速电路中的差分才需要加吗?其信号传输电路要加吗?
支持6楼 8楼的解释~
具体问题具体分析~应该不属于阻抗容抗匹配类的~
应该是耦合作用,出去直流通量,至于容值的选择与信号的频率有关。
电容的选择是根据电路中的频率来确定的,LZ可以查查电路中的频率是否该用104