为什么CST MWS设置不同AR filter的初始时间结果不同?
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1.首先想请问各位大神AR filter的原理是什么。我看了一下帮助文件完又找了CST高级概念(截图),但是还是不太理解。
是不是说从first time step开始就产生一个很短的时间间隙(skip time steps?)然后计算预测下一个时间段的时域波形,如果预测和实际吻合了就停止。如果时域信号扫了10ns,给它从2ns开始算,它算到5ns就停止了,也就是说在它所计算的3ns之内已经提取到了足够的信息用来滤波(这是不是自回溯的概念?),5ns-10ns是不算了的,那以后我再计算此类结构的话是不是只要扫到5ns+就可以了?
2.数据处理的时候用不同的初始位置,滤波完了之后的结果很不一样啊,这是为什么呢?虽然峰位基本一致,但是1.87THz处的峰位形状变化实在是太怪异了,一会是峰,一会是谷(实际上也应该是谷),不知道怎么才能得到最好的滤波结果啊。
25ps的logfile,其它时间的结果也是类似的,analysis1的energy error还不错,analysis2的就不行了(e-001左右);Average deviation 就是在e-003量级,怎么也下不去……
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Analysis 1 of 2 for stimulation port 1, mode 1
===================================================================
First time step : 2.499977e-011 s
Skip time steps : 10
Max. frequency : 4.935000e+000 THz
Max. order of filter : 40
Relative Window length: 3.000000e+000
Input signal samples : 7977
Input signal length : 4.902240e-011 s
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step | window range | rel. wnd. | filter | energy | pulses to
| s | length | order | error | calculate
------|---------------------------|-----------|--------|-----------|-----------
1 | 1.9543e-011 - 3.2448e-011 | 5.25 | 36 | 6.56e-005 | 1.32e+001
2 | 1.9604e-011 - 3.2510e-011 | 5.25 | 34 | 6.43e-005 | 1.33e+001
3 | 1.9665e-011 - 3.2571e-011 | 5.25 | 32 | 1.11e-004 | 1.33e+001
4 | 1.9727e-011 - 3.2632e-011 | 5.25 | 34 | 8.80e-005 | 1.33e+001
5 | 2.1632e-011 - 3.2694e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 3.72e-005 | 1.33e+001
6 | 2.1694e-011 - 3.2755e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 4.08e-005 | 1.34e+001
7 | 2.1755e-011 - 3.2817e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 6.45e-005 | 1.34e+001
8 | 2.1816e-011 - 3.2878e-011 | 4.50 | 30 | 8.48e-005 | 1.34e+001
9 | 2.1878e-011 - 3.2940e-011 | 4.50 | 30 | 1.53e-004 | 1.34e+001
10 | 2.0096e-011 - 3.3001e-011 | 5.25 | 40 | 1.52e-004 | 1.35e+001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
filter step 5 was chosen for further calculations.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
===================================================================
Analysis 2 of 2 for stimulation port 1, mode 1
===================================================================
First time step : 2.499977e-011 s
Skip time steps : 10
Max. frequency : 4.935000e+000 THz
Max. order of filter : 40
Relative Window length: 3.000000e+000
Input signal samples : 7977
Input signal length : 4.902240e-011 s
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
step | window range | rel. wnd. | filter | energy | pulses to
| s | length | order | error | calculate
------|---------------------------|-----------|--------|-----------|-----------
1 | 1.9543e-011 - 3.2448e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.91e-001 | 1.32e+001
2 | 1.9604e-011 - 3.2510e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.95e-001 | 1.33e+001
3 | 1.9665e-011 - 3.2571e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.00e-001 | 1.33e+001
4 | 1.9727e-011 - 3.2632e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.98e-001 | 1.33e+001
5 | 1.9788e-011 - 3.2694e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.87e-001 | 1.33e+001
6 | 1.9850e-011 - 3.2755e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.86e-001 | 1.34e+001
7 | 1.9911e-011 - 3.2817e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.98e-001 | 1.34e+001
8 | 1.9973e-011 - 3.2878e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.04e-001 | 1.34e+001
9 | 2.0034e-011 - 3.2940e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.04e-001 | 1.34e+001
10 | 2.0096e-011 - 3.3001e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.05e-001 | 1.35e+001
11 | 2.0157e-011 - 3.3063e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.10e-001 | 1.35e+001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
filter step 6 was chosen for further calculations.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
===========================================================
Stimulation at port 1 (mode 1)
Average deviation in s-parameter energy balance: 1.142665e-002
Maximum deviation in s-parameter energy balance: 1.118762e+001
===========================================================
===================================================================
Maximum deviation in s-parameter energy balance = 11.1876
(regarding all successful filter runs)
===================================================================
1.首先想请问各位大神AR filter的原理是什么。我看了一下帮助文件完又找了CST高级概念(截图),但是还是不太理解。
是不是说从first time step开始就产生一个很短的时间间隙(skip time steps?)然后计算预测下一个时间段的时域波形,如果预测和实际吻合了就停止。如果时域信号扫了10ns,给它从2ns开始算,它算到5ns就停止了,也就是说在它所计算的3ns之内已经提取到了足够的信息用来滤波(这是不是自回溯的概念?),5ns-10ns是不算了的,那以后我再计算此类结构的话是不是只要扫到5ns+就可以了?
2.数据处理的时候用不同的初始位置,滤波完了之后的结果很不一样啊,这是为什么呢?虽然峰位基本一致,但是1.87THz处的峰位形状变化实在是太怪异了,一会是峰,一会是谷(实际上也应该是谷),不知道怎么才能得到最好的滤波结果啊。
25ps的logfile,其它时间的结果也是类似的,analysis1的energy error还不错,analysis2的就不行了(e-001左右);Average deviation 就是在e-003量级,怎么也下不去……
===================================================================
Analysis 1 of 2 for stimulation port 1, mode 1
===================================================================
First time step : 2.499977e-011 s
Skip time steps : 10
Max. frequency : 4.935000e+000 THz
Max. order of filter : 40
Relative Window length: 3.000000e+000
Input signal samples : 7977
Input signal length : 4.902240e-011 s
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
step | window range | rel. wnd. | filter | energy | pulses to
| s | length | order | error | calculate
------|---------------------------|-----------|--------|-----------|-----------
1 | 1.9543e-011 - 3.2448e-011 | 5.25 | 36 | 6.56e-005 | 1.32e+001
2 | 1.9604e-011 - 3.2510e-011 | 5.25 | 34 | 6.43e-005 | 1.33e+001
3 | 1.9665e-011 - 3.2571e-011 | 5.25 | 32 | 1.11e-004 | 1.33e+001
4 | 1.9727e-011 - 3.2632e-011 | 5.25 | 34 | 8.80e-005 | 1.33e+001
5 | 2.1632e-011 - 3.2694e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 3.72e-005 | 1.33e+001
6 | 2.1694e-011 - 3.2755e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 4.08e-005 | 1.34e+001
7 | 2.1755e-011 - 3.2817e-011 | 4.50 | 32 | 6.45e-005 | 1.34e+001
8 | 2.1816e-011 - 3.2878e-011 | 4.50 | 30 | 8.48e-005 | 1.34e+001
9 | 2.1878e-011 - 3.2940e-011 | 4.50 | 30 | 1.53e-004 | 1.34e+001
10 | 2.0096e-011 - 3.3001e-011 | 5.25 | 40 | 1.52e-004 | 1.35e+001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
filter step 5 was chosen for further calculations.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
===================================================================
Analysis 2 of 2 for stimulation port 1, mode 1
===================================================================
First time step : 2.499977e-011 s
Skip time steps : 10
Max. frequency : 4.935000e+000 THz
Max. order of filter : 40
Relative Window length: 3.000000e+000
Input signal samples : 7977
Input signal length : 4.902240e-011 s
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
step | window range | rel. wnd. | filter | energy | pulses to
| s | length | order | error | calculate
------|---------------------------|-----------|--------|-----------|-----------
1 | 1.9543e-011 - 3.2448e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.91e-001 | 1.32e+001
2 | 1.9604e-011 - 3.2510e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.95e-001 | 1.33e+001
3 | 1.9665e-011 - 3.2571e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.00e-001 | 1.33e+001
4 | 1.9727e-011 - 3.2632e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.98e-001 | 1.33e+001
5 | 1.9788e-011 - 3.2694e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.87e-001 | 1.33e+001
6 | 1.9850e-011 - 3.2755e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.86e-001 | 1.34e+001
7 | 1.9911e-011 - 3.2817e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 1.98e-001 | 1.34e+001
8 | 1.9973e-011 - 3.2878e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.04e-001 | 1.34e+001
9 | 2.0034e-011 - 3.2940e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.04e-001 | 1.34e+001
10 | 2.0096e-011 - 3.3001e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.05e-001 | 1.35e+001
11 | 2.0157e-011 - 3.3063e-011 | 5.25 | 11 | 2.10e-001 | 1.35e+001
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
filter step 6 was chosen for further calculations.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
===========================================================
Stimulation at port 1 (mode 1)
Average deviation in s-parameter energy balance: 1.142665e-002
Maximum deviation in s-parameter energy balance: 1.118762e+001
===========================================================
===================================================================
Maximum deviation in s-parameter energy balance = 11.1876
(regarding all successful filter runs)
===================================================================
补充:计算频率0.1-3THz。