关于微带线电长度的理解
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请看图片中的文献描述,请问open-circuit λ/2 resonant怎么理解?是电磁波在这一段微带线上只传输半个波长么?
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微带线物理长度较长时呈电感性,为了谐振,应该串联一个电容。在微带线右端串联电容使得电长度减小,
因此传输半个波长所需的微带线物理长度增长了,即可以实现以较长的微带线与电容的串联实现谐振。
而微带线物理长度过短时呈电容性,为了谐振,应该串联一个电感。在微带线右端串联电感使得电长度增大。
因此因此传输半个波长所需的微带线物理长度减小了,即可以实现用较短的微带线与电感的串联实现谐振。
以下是网上的说法,供参考
electrical length:
1. Of a transmission medium, its length expressed as a multiple or submultiple of the wavelength of a periodic electromagnetic or electrical signal propagating within the medium.
2. Of a transmission medium, its physical length multiplied by the ratio of (a) the propagation time of an electrical or electromagnetic signal through the medium to (b) the propagation time of an electromagnetic wave in free space over a distance equal to the physical length of the medium in question. Note: The electrical length of a physical medium will always be greater than its physical length. For example, in coaxial CABLES, distributed resistances, capacitances and inductances impede the propagation of the signal. In an OPTICAL fiber, interaction of the lightwave with the materials of which the fiber is made, and fiber geometry, affect the velocity of propagation of the signal.
3.Of an antenna, the effective length of an element, usually expressed in wavelengths.
Note 1: The electrical length is in general different from the physical length.
Note 2: By the addition of an appropriate reactive element (capacitive or inductive), the electrical length may be made significantly shorter or longer than the physical length.
电长度:
1.对于传输媒介,它的长度被表示为一个在媒介中传波的电或者电磁信号波长的倍数。
注释 1:波长可能用弧度来表示,或者其它的角度单位来表示,如角度。
注释 2:在同轴电缆和光纤中,传输速率大约为自由空间中的2/3。因此,波长
大约为自由空间中波长的2/3,而电长度则大约为物理长度的1.5 倍。
2.对于传输媒介,(电长度)用 它的物理长乘以 电或电磁信号在媒介中的传输
时间(时间为a)与 这信号在自由空间中通过跟媒介物理长度一样的距离时所
需的时间(时间为b)的比(即电长度=物理长度*a/b) 来考虑。
注释:对于一个物理媒介来说,它的电长度总是大于它的物理长度。例如,在同
轴电缆中,分布电阻、电容、电感阻碍了信号的传输;在光纤中,光波与
光纤材料之间的相互作用,以及光纤的几何结构,影响了信号的传输速率。
3.对于天线,天线的有效长度常表示为波长的倍数。
注释 1.电长度跟物理长度通常是不一样的。
注释 2.通过增加一个适当的电抗元件(电容或电感),电长度可以显著的短于或者长于物理长度。
以下是维基百科的解释:
Antennas which are the wrong length to be resonant, or which must operate at a different frequency at which they are not resonant, are often brought into resonance by loading; adding capacitors or inductors in series with them.[1] An antenna which is shorter than its resonant length has capacitive reactance. The capacitance can be compensated by adding an equal value inductance, a loading coil in series. The coil can be thought of as electrically lengthening the antenna. Similarly, an antenna which is longer than its resonant length has inductive reactance, and can be electrically shortened by adding a loading capacitor.
以上蓝字部分很混乱,经过与同学和cconline 讨论更正如下:
(1)串电容电长度减小,串电感电长度增大。
(2)电长度与物理长度呈正相关
“串电容,使整个coil的电容减小了,根据谐振公式,要想匹配,谐振频率也必定增加,也即电长度减小”,谐振频率增大对应谐振波长变短,也即物理长度shorten。
同理,串电感,整个coil电感增大,根据谐振公式,要想匹配,谐振频率也必定减小,也即电长度增大,谐振频率减小对应谐振波长变长,也即物理长度lengthen。
明确几点:
1)上文中提到的“1. Of a transmission medium, its length expressed as a multiple or submultiple of the wavelength of a periodic electromagnetic or electrical signal propagating within the medium. ”,这里的“its length”应理解为传输线的物理长度,而不是电长度,我一直将其作为电长度来理解,因此总是理不清。这句话的意思是传输线的长度通常用电磁波波长的倍数(或几分之一)来描述。
2)“2. Of a transmission medium, its physical length multiplied by the ratio of (a) the propagation time of an electrical or electromagnetic signal through the medium to (b) the propagation time of an electromagnetic wave in free space over a distance equal to the physical length of the medium in question.”
这句话的意思是:电长度=物理长度*a/b,可以得出电长度与物理长度呈正相关。
【友情提示】以下蓝字部分有误,请注意看下文中红色字部分的讨论
微带线物理长度较长时呈电感性,为了谐振,应该串联一个电容。在微带线右端串联电容使得电长度减小,
因此传输半个波长所需的微带线物理长度增长了,即可以实现以较长的微带线与电容的串联实现谐振。
而微带线物理长度过短时呈电容性,为了谐振,应该串联一个电感。在微带线右端串联电感使得电长度增大。
因此因此传输半个波长所需的微带线物理长度减小了,即可以实现用较短的微带线与电感的串联实现谐振。
以下是网上的说法,供参考
electrical length:
1. Of a transmission medium, its length expressed as a multiple or submultiple of the wavelength of a periodic electromagnetic or electrical signal propagating within the medium.
2. Of a transmission medium, its physical length multiplied by the ratio of (a) the propagation time of an electrical or electromagnetic signal through the medium to (b) the propagation time of an electromagnetic wave in free space over a distance equal to the physical length of the medium in question. Note: The electrical length of a physical medium will always be greater than its physical length. For example, in coaxial CABLES, distributed resistances, capacitances and inductances impede the propagation of the signal. In an OPTICAL fiber, interaction of the lightwave with the materials of which the fiber is made, and fiber geometry, affect the velocity of propagation of the signal.
3.Of an antenna, the effective length of an element, usually expressed in wavelengths.
Note 1: The electrical length is in general different from the physical length.
Note 2: By the addition of an appropriate reactive element (capacitive or inductive), the electrical length may be made significantly shorter or longer than the physical length.
电长度:
1.对于传输媒介,它的长度被表示为一个在媒介中传波的电或者电磁信号波长的倍数。
注释 1:波长可能用弧度来表示,或者其它的角度单位来表示,如角度。
注释 2:在同轴电缆和光纤中,传输速率大约为自由空间中的2/3。因此,波长
大约为自由空间中波长的2/3,而电长度则大约为物理长度的1.5 倍。
2.对于传输媒介,(电长度)用 它的物理长乘以 电或电磁信号在媒介中的传输
时间(时间为a)与 这信号在自由空间中通过跟媒介物理长度一样的距离时所
需的时间(时间为b)的比(即电长度=物理长度*a/b) 来考虑。
注释:对于一个物理媒介来说,它的电长度总是大于它的物理长度。例如,在同
轴电缆中,分布电阻、电容、电感阻碍了信号的传输;在光纤中,光波与
光纤材料之间的相互作用,以及光纤的几何结构,影响了信号的传输速率。
3.对于天线,天线的有效长度常表示为波长的倍数。
注释 1.电长度跟物理长度通常是不一样的。
注释 2.通过增加一个适当的电抗元件(电容或电感),电长度可以显著的短于或者长于物理长度。
以下是维基百科的解释:
Antennas which are the wrong length to be resonant, or which must operate at a different frequency at which they are not resonant, are often brought into resonance by loading; adding capacitors or inductors in series with them.[1] An antenna which is shorter than its resonant length has capacitive reactance. The capacitance can be compensated by adding an equal value inductance, a loading coil in series. The coil can be thought of as electrically lengthening the antenna. Similarly, an antenna which is longer than its resonant length has inductive reactance, and can be electrically shortened by adding a loading capacitor.
以上蓝字部分很混乱,经过与同学和cconline 讨论更正如下:
(1)串电容电长度减小,串电感电长度增大。
(2)电长度与物理长度呈正相关
“串电容,使整个coil的电容减小了,根据谐振公式,要想匹配,谐振频率也必定增加,也即电长度减小”,谐振频率增大对应谐振波长变短,也即物理长度shorten。
同理,串电感,整个coil电感增大,根据谐振公式,要想匹配,谐振频率也必定减小,也即电长度增大,谐振频率减小对应谐振波长变长,也即物理长度lengthen。
明确几点:
1)上文中提到的“1. Of a transmission medium, its length expressed as a multiple or submultiple of the wavelength of a periodic electromagnetic or electrical signal propagating within the medium. ”,这里的“its length”应理解为传输线的物理长度,而不是电长度,我一直将其作为电长度来理解,因此总是理不清。这句话的意思是传输线的长度通常用电磁波波长的倍数(或几分之一)来描述。
2)“2. Of a transmission medium, its physical length multiplied by the ratio of (a) the propagation time of an electrical or electromagnetic signal through the medium to (b) the propagation time of an electromagnetic wave in free space over a distance equal to the physical length of the medium in question.”
这句话的意思是:电长度=物理长度*a/b,可以得出电长度与物理长度呈正相关。
受教了。
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不太明白想要表达的意思。但是对于微带线:
1,它表现容性或者感性应该是基于它的负载是什么样子的,这个可以根据传输线输入阻抗的那个公式去看。总之,如负载是短路,那么短的一根Txline呈现感性,如果负载是开路,则短的一根Txline呈现容性。
2,至于串联电容和电感,应该是串联电容减小电长度,串联电感增加电长度吧。
小编留言:
如果说串联电容减小电长度,那么串联电容后单位长度内传输的波长更少了,要实现谐振需要更长的物理长度,也就是说,串联电容增大了物理长度。这样说对不对的?
按此说法,要减小物理长度,应该在微带线右端串联电感?而文献中讲的是串联电容后物理长度减小,这样一来岂不是矛盾了么?
我的意思是问上图中的图和描述是不是正确的,微带线串联电容(图中是串联吧?)可以使微带线的物理长度减小,这一说法正不正确的?
假如这一说法正确,是不是就可以推出串联电容增大电长度(我认为增大电长度对应减小物理长度)?
唉,理解错啦
有见解。
来学习下,请问:微带线的电长度很特别吗?
我做MRI 射频线圈的,这个要理解的